User talk:Jeb

I had to make a provision for Castilian since it's one of the two main languages of South Aegea and it was brought over by the Iberians, along with Portuguese. It should also be the lingua franca, much like Hindi is India's lingua franca.


 * I'd rather not, personally. I think if we keep Spanish in Europa, it'll just be too much like another alternative version of Earth which is not really what we aim for, right? As 'English'/'Aegean' is already excluded from Europa and was born in North Aegea, I thought we could do the same for Spanish. In my book, and what I thought Joe had planned in Mexico, 'Spanish' would be 'Mexica' or 'Mexican language', originating in Mexico. There's ways to figure out how linguistically it will work out to develop as modern Spanish. An idea would be through the Iberian colonization of the Aegeas, and possibly through an earlier small colonization of the Aegeas during the Roman Empire, dropping Germanic tribal slaves (and their languages) and Romans and Provincials (Hispania for South Aegea/Mexico areas), who'd speak Latin, Iberian, Celtiberian and Celtic. When Iberia comes and discover/rediscover the Aegeas, all the various linguistic communities of Iberia will merge with that Latin/Iberian/Celtiberian/Celtic languages to form Spanish. Italian, Valois and other colons would come and help develop this new language to form modern Spanish. What do you think? ~ Juls


 * I have chosen to call Spanish "castillian" for the sake of difference and it is the language that South Aegea will use, alongside Portuguese. The history of Iberia is pretty much the same as the history of Spain, even the Napoleonic Wars have been mentioned (Napoleon without France? I'd like to know how that works) Castillian did evolve in the Aegeas, every country has its own accents, its own idiosyncrasies and idioms, yet the language is structurally the same, an empire needs a lingua franca, and if Iberia had an empire, then it also needs a lingua franca. Instead of one, it can have two: Castillian and Portuguese. I have not envisages a Roman colonization of the Aegeas, I find that harder to stomach than Spanish not being one of the languages of Iberia, there is no Iberia without a Castillian language. Also, I think the flag needs to change, the current Coat of Arms is, heraldrically speaking, a royal coat of arms and the colours reflect the Spanish Republic, leaving no representation for portugal. I'm all for changes, and I think Iberia itself is a great change from the Earth equivalent, but the language is hugely important for South Aegea, its history and its roleplay. ~ Jeb.


 * Many republics (Bulgaria, Hungary, Georgia, Montenegro, Serbia, etc.) have royal coat of arms, it's not uncommon, nor is it out of place (historical reasons). An Empire needs a lingua franca, yes, and it would have been Portuguese for Iberia. I'm just very reticent in having 'Spanish' (whatever name you want it to be I don't mind at all) be in Europa. There could be an Iberia without Spanish and a South Aegea with Spanish, and that's the beauty of Kobol, we can make it work out, realistically. There's a need to historical similitude to a certain point for the sake of culture and language development. For instance, the Napoleonic laws and systems (metric), need to be implement to Europa in one way or another, so it's important to have a "Napoleonic era", which I thought of in with Vale as the 'French' speaking homeland, still developing it. I did a rough language map of Europa if you want to have a look, you see how it might seem a bit complicated but I'm making it work with past European history so it makes sense linguistically (e.g. here). ~ Juls


 * So Germany can have a German language but Iberia can't have Spanish? in my history it was the Iberians who brought Castillian and Portuguese to South Aegea ~ Jeb.